How Indian Makes 43% More Power than Harley-Davidson

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Metallurgy? Keto diet? Liquid cooling? Red Bull? What’s the secret behind Indian's huge power advantage over Harley-Davidson?
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Harold Santiago
Harold Santiago Acum oră
Thanks for the in-depth explanation and the unbiased exposition of the subject.
Vincent Anthony Matriano
Vincent Anthony Matriano Acum 2 ore
cool, you look like "the elongated man" in the tv series " flash". 😁
wipperwil
wipperwil Acum 4 ore
Daaaaang maaaan. Ryan, they cannot be paying you enough!
Charlie Simiskey
Charlie Simiskey Acum 15 ore
Movie of the year award goes to... Seriously though awesome video
James I.
James I. Acum 16 ore
I love my Indian Scout Bobber!
simivb
simivb Acum 19 ore
I don't have anything to do with motorcycles, but your videos are just so nice, I watch them anyway!
Adiy Warbo
Adiy Warbo Acum 21 oră
Pure brilliance!
Chase Benson
Chase Benson Acum 22 ore
This is my new Top Gear
Concours Chef
Concours Chef Acum 22 ore
Amazing no Harley die hards on here running their mouths. Guess there's no arguing when facts are right in front of your face. Still, would have made for great entertainment.
Guido Serrano
Guido Serrano Acum 22 ore
At least they are not using the native american image anymore on the tank.
Ameer Kp
Ameer Kp Acum o Zi
Prowd to be an INDIN ❤️
അല്ല പിന്നെ
അല്ല പിന്നെ Acum 3 ore
Its american brand 😑
Brawl Stars Baby
Brawl Stars Baby Acum o Zi
My question is, why is it called Indian???
9mm james
9mm james Acum o Zi
why not compare the indian to a v65 magna everyone just wants to bash on Harley its the in thing
Skyd Control
Skyd Control Acum o Zi
I saw the FTR1200 a couple years ago and seriously fell in love with it....it's on my list!
IIARROWS
IIARROWS Acum o Zi
7:05 mmmh.... 8:06 oooh...
Varun Biday
Varun Biday Acum o Zi
There are so many reverse shots because the brands run on nostalgia. ART!
Sidi Mansour
Sidi Mansour Acum o Zi
That was like watching a Top Gear episode...wow!
Simon Long
Simon Long Acum 2 Zile
Compare to Britten twins.
22Atychos
22Atychos Acum 2 Zile
It's a dream to even touch one of those 😑
Keith Sise
Keith Sise Acum 2 Zile
Had me thinking about the ftr for the last half of the video only to show at the end that where where it was all building to. Same engine platform take to the next level beyond the scout.
Bob Adams
Bob Adams Acum 3 Zile
why is it that American motor vehicles make such pathetic amounts of power for engine size. European and Japanese cars and bikes make 3-4 times American motors. please explain.
Dirk Hinkle
Dirk Hinkle Acum 3 Zile
THIS video & all his before this is why I subscribe. My thumb is up while my butt is on a RoadKing.
Mau Senpai
Mau Senpai Acum 3 Zile
India in title. Views going brrrrr.
PENDATANG BARU fF4N84
PENDATANG BARU fF4N84 Acum 3 Zile
and how much is it ??
PENDATANG BARU fF4N84
PENDATANG BARU fF4N84 Acum 3 Zile
🙏my name is Fan from Indonesia, how do I buy an Indian bobber scooter scooter tank from your home country ??
MissingMountain Rider
MissingMountain Rider Acum 4 Zile
Now if they’d just make one big enough to fit someone over 6’ tall.
The Canadian Wombat
The Canadian Wombat Acum 4 Zile
If Harley Davidson was about going fast we’d buy crotch rockets
Gohan Twitch
Gohan Twitch Acum 4 Zile
The B roll with the scout going backwards over the leaves had me questioning if I was watching a bike review or an art exhibit. Absolute beauty of a video Ryan. Thanks again for a great video
Noah Kearney
Noah Kearney Acum 4 Zile
Quality Filmmaking + Quality Information
ShelBelSaphire
ShelBelSaphire Acum 4 Zile
production quality wows me every time. fantastic work.
Bob Roberts
Bob Roberts Acum 4 Zile
Harley is a master at selling an image.
BlondeGirlSez This
BlondeGirlSez This Acum 4 Zile
Best shit on YT.
Rahul Negi
Rahul Negi Acum 4 Zile
Amazing
Juan Pablo Nicolas Veltri
Juan Pablo Nicolas Veltri Acum 4 Zile
Dude I'm addicted to the level of quality of this videos. One of the best channels on YT.
Robert Gonzales
Robert Gonzales Acum 4 Zile
Harley's dying customer base won't allow them to change. They're screwed.
American556
American556 Acum 5 Zile
Looks like Indian copied Ducati Monster
Emory Holley
Emory Holley Acum 5 Zile
Great video. Victory failed because the bikes looked dumb in my opinion. No one wants to ride a caricature.
Terminus Est
Terminus Est Acum 5 Zile
83 hp is really nothing to brag about from a modern v twin when ducati can get 200 out of theirs.
Siggy in CR
Siggy in CR Acum 5 Zile
Guess I'm in the minority here based on the comments. I found the editing heavy-handed and distracting from the actual content. To each their own.
Preet Jain
Preet Jain Acum 5 Zile
In 2017 Ryan asked Harley to give the new generation a chance with their long stong engines and come up with a plan faster than India does. Fast forward to today, Harley shuts down in India and they still suck.
Charles Willis
Charles Willis Acum 5 Zile
Definitely agree that Harley is stuck between a rock and a hard place as far as forced into their nostalgic gimmicks and having modern tech, but everything on a cruiser style bike is a compromise between styling and performance. If you were that worried about performance you'd be on another style of bike to begin with because the cruiser platform is what it is. I guess that is what he's getting at with the Scout, which is a really cool looking bike. I'm content with my sportster. How much power do I really need?
Reece T Bobby
Reece T Bobby Acum 5 Zile
It's staggering how Harley has doubled down on their hill to die on in so many ways. First only catering to baby boomers who are now ageing out of riding, and then following the stupid notions in regards to their powerplants as depicted in this video. The company will be out of business very soon at this rate...
Ernest Kincaid
Ernest Kincaid Acum 6 Zile
Dude! Beautiful video. The music, cinematography, commentary. So. Well. Done. Kudos!
KTM காதலர்கள்
KTM காதலர்கள் Acum 6 Zile
How make this bike any Indian company or indians
DEBASHIS SARKAR
DEBASHIS SARKAR Acum 6 Zile
Cause Indians are always efficient😂🤣
Palukuri Nitish Gupta
Palukuri Nitish Gupta Acum 6 Zile
Hello Indian guys... This is not an Indian bike company😂 It's a bike company named Indian
Shalom CCS
Shalom CCS Acum 6 Zile
The rivalry between Harley and Indian is a long story. Indian has more torque , but I prefer Harley D old models Glide and road king .
hippyhay1
hippyhay1 Acum 6 Zile
Anybody notice the nice recording of a raven at the end?
Michael12
Michael12 Acum 7 Zile
Your apples to apples comparison is the scout to the V-Rod, and at least you mention the V-Rod. The V-Rod being 100cc less and heavier blows the scout away in every category. At the end, you finally recognized the main point--it's not about technology or the inability to design bikes with the latest technology--it is about what people will buy. The typical rice-grinder rider is 16-30 yrs old and doesn't have a lot of extra cash. Neither Polaris, Harley, BMW, or Ducatti can build a hyper performance bike cheaper than the Japanese. I mean cheaper in in both senses of the word--less expensive and chinsey. So the other manufacturers also choose to maintain their quality and reputations and not go there. BMW and Ducatti build performance bikes that are extremely uncomfortable and super fast, but at a premium price (S1000RR is over 30K). Ducatti doesn't even publish the price of the superleggera on its website (must be scary high). So most Americans, once they hit 35 or so and have some money are no longer interested in trying to survive a 160mph crash on a motorcycle, but want a machine with some character (toys are made of plastic), that is reliable and comfortable, that they can cover greater distances in style. Japan is the size of California, and most European countries are even smaller--so they generally don't travel as far even to the grocery store or their local beer joint (most actually can walk there). So it is not about just price and performance, but about aesthetics, comfort, practicality and emotion. In order to build a quality motorcycle in the USA, you have to spend a lot of money: unions, wages, benefits and some of the toughest environmental and safety controls in the world. Thus, Harley has to target the monied folks and cater to their tastes to sell. As you point out--they like what's iconic, air-cooling, push rods etc. The truly amazing engineering at Harley Davidson, is that even with the huge disadvantages of all the costs I outlined above, they produce high quality, price competitive motorcycles in their model ranges in the USA! That, too, means a lot to patriotic good hearted Americans knowing that their motorcycle was not manufactured or assembled in a third world country by workers paid slave wages. BTW, Harley just came out with a 1250cc liquid cooled V-Twin and most likely will be using it on other models besides just the Pan-America.
VOLT GAMING
VOLT GAMING Acum 7 Zile
What they named the bike Indian
robo678
robo678 Acum 7 Zile
Still no one buys indians 😁
Aditya Soni
Aditya Soni Acum 7 Zile
I've never seen this bike in India😢
kahlzun
kahlzun Acum 7 Zile
Couldnt HD just put those as cosmetic pieces and sneak in the radiator etc so it's not obvious?
seyfarth
seyfarth Acum 7 Zile
Fortnine is killing it. What motorcycle journalism should be
PNWShawn
PNWShawn Acum 7 Zile
Yet another brilliant video from Ryan F9! I used to ride an ‘07 Sportster and it was a real crowd pleaser with that V-twin sound and dripping with style. Unfortunately, it was was slow with ungainly handling, and I practically had to make an appointment on my calendar to stop. Compared to my new 2020 Triumph T-120, the HD felt like I was riding Fred Flintstone’s car (seriously, it felt like I had to put my feet down on the road to slow or stop). Like the Indian, my Bonneville is a 1200cc bike making 80 HP. Triumph did this by using water cooling (aided by old school cooling fins) and reducing weight on moving parts inside the motor to raise the rev limit. For 2021 they raised it even higher and shaved off about 7kg between the engine and new aluminum wheels (with twin Brembos up front)! Also, the Triumph comes standard with ABS, traction control, heated grips, center stand, cruise control, and ride-by-wire throttle with selectable ride modes. Compared to the Bonnie and Indian, the HD belongs in the Museum of Jurassic Technology.
dillon hodges
dillon hodges Acum 7 Zile
I'd love to own an octane or an FTR. The generation that wants a good American motorcycle, cant afford it. Our day will come though. Until then, progress only benefits those who can afford and desire it.
Android Master
Android Master Acum 8 Zile
Indian street Bikes are more louder than those forgeniners superbikes
Android Master
Android Master Acum 8 Zile
Expect Royal Enfield
Iron Zach
Iron Zach Acum 8 Zile
Go Go India 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳!!! Wait nevermind...
S
S Acum 8 Zile
Nothing is more embarrassing than waiting for a guy to put on their riding costume. I've rode/owned them all and I ride in what I'm wearing. I talked one dealer into throwing in a coat with a bike. I can't believe anyone would pay $1,000 for a coat made in china!
Dave Robbins
Dave Robbins Acum 8 Zile
I'm sorry, 50 HP from 1200cc? What the actual hell. Trash.
Erik Ziel
Erik Ziel Acum 8 Zile
I think, even VW could go up to 90hp, with cooling fins..
CanadianRydz705
CanadianRydz705 Acum 9 Zile
Incredibly well explained, the editing is awesome. Found the dick references totally bizarre but probably cuz i was thinking about engines
Daniel Hristov
Daniel Hristov Acum 9 Zile
Hi Ryan, so... If I’m looking for a single cylinder bike... wich desing and capacity should I go for? Square? 125? 250? 400... 600? Thanks for the video
Ouwkackemann
Ouwkackemann Acum 9 Zile
Only with my Harley, back in the days, I could ride slowly without missing anything. The sound, rolling and vibrating of the engine itself by just iddeling when standing has put a smile on my face. Standing and waiting at a crossing, with the bike and me shaking, I loved it.
Terra Gaia
Terra Gaia Acum 10 Zile
Literally every Fortnine is science, economics and finance ultimatum reeled on a movie reel with theatre filter.
Andre Ferro
Andre Ferro Acum 10 Zile
Respect from Brazil, brother motorcyclist!
Tony
Tony Acum 10 Zile
as an indian i can say this is a click bait but loved the video
semtech30
semtech30 Acum 10 Zile
I like'em all. Power ? RPM ? Who's racing ? These bikes are for fun, I like my Harley, it's fun. Indian pulled up it's socks. Good to have choices. Jay's Garage has a good demo on the Chieftain. Awesome Bike as of 2014. Good Job.
Rick Standish
Rick Standish Acum 10 Zile
Great video. I learned a lot of basic physics.
A J
A J Acum 10 Zile
It's HD not HP.............
Mannu Sharma
Mannu Sharma Acum 10 Zile
Anybody else came just for INDIAN name
XxXxDominator
XxXxDominator Acum 10 Zile
dam these one liner get me all the time xD lawling 2 hard!!!
The Pack, Mavericks, Akita, Malinois X and Dutch X
The Pack, Mavericks, Akita, Malinois X and Dutch X Acum 10 Zile
The idea of Harley is going slow lol.
The Pack, Mavericks, Akita, Malinois X and Dutch X
The Pack, Mavericks, Akita, Malinois X and Dutch X Acum 10 Zile
Harley is better lol
asher
asher Acum 10 Zile
இந்தியன் டா!😉
Baleur
Baleur Acum 11 Zile
That Indian is the most gorgeous "muscle bike" ive seen, and he says its a shame they changed their classic image? Its good! We cant live in the past. This thing is gorgeous.
William Heinsinger
William Heinsinger Acum 4 Zile
Agreed I have a 2021 Scout Bobber Abs in White Smoke, Love it 😁👍💟
Tony Clayton
Tony Clayton Acum 11 Zile
No lie though even if it is just for looks and style I can't help but love the indian scout, ooh and that sound, those fatty tires, it is a bit of art and i think people just appreciate it, at least to some extent. Like you say, the indian of today doesnt sacrifice as much as.. Some other bikes.., a little low and a little less comfortable than other bikes but not so much so as to despise the design
Not Sure - 2020
Not Sure - 2020 Acum 11 Zile
Yea, I got the Indian FTR 1200 (bike at the very end) because it was so unique. I even checked Harley to see if they had anything...they did not. ;)
P M
P M Acum 11 Zile
Being low is not antiquated. It's about mindset. Being relaxed. When I started riding (rebel 250 that I drove all over America) it was about freedom and seeing what's around me. Then we fall into the trap of more performance and we lose something along the way. I do think to be safe it's wise to have a bit of performance, my rebel could barely get out of its own way. Harley's are overpriced. Indian kinda is too. But I think cruisers will come back, at least one last time.
chriszichriszable
chriszichriszable Acum 12 Zile
Great video! Harley is more about looks and heritage, and I guess no Harley Rider ever rides his bike at top performance... "Look at my fast Harley".. said no Harley Rider ever!
SwissWildPics SWP
SwissWildPics SWP Acum 12 Zile
I didnt think your quality production could go up, but it did. You never cease to amaze me
My Canadian-Russian notes
My Canadian-Russian notes Acum 12 Zile
masterpiece!
Dimitris Pitos
Dimitris Pitos Acum 12 Zile
The "nostalgia" marketing thing is called MAYA (most advanced yet acceptable) and it is just the story you tell about this victory motors vs Indian/HD
penny wisdom
penny wisdom Acum 12 Zile
No company, other than Harley Davidson, desperately wishes they could make an objectively better product but their most loyal paying customers refuse to let them.
mag steel
mag steel Acum 13 Zile
I've never heard of the "penises per cylinder" spec. Every manufacturer should list this.
yumpladukfoo
yumpladukfoo Acum 13 Zile
83HP and 83% uglier.
Evil Ian
Evil Ian Acum 13 Zile
Harley made a quality bike in the first half of the twentieth century. Since then, America has by far been the worst motorcycle producers. Compared to Japan, Germany, Italy and England, America is an embarrassment for motorcycle manufacturing. But the cruiser is pure American and HD is king. They can put a turd on wheels( which they do) and American knuckleheads eat it up like it was mana from heaven.
Raj B
Raj B Acum 13 Zile
Wow!!!
The Adventuring Spirit
The Adventuring Spirit Acum 14 Zile
Amazing creativity and inspiration in the intro of this video!! F9 is really setting a high standard in motovlogs!
Dipling. Pitzler
Dipling. Pitzler Acum 14 Zile
This is like comparing apples and pears ...if you want hammering low rev instant torque you take a Sportster if you want high rev delayed torque, with not enough lean angle clearance though, you take a Scout.The real problem is because of emission control the Sportster will be phased out and there is no substitute in sight.Already not available anymore in Europe!
Jason Burtals
Jason Burtals Acum 14 Zile
Cause they don’t.
misha s anand
misha s anand Acum 14 Zile
pause anywhere to get beautiful wallpaper...
Ray Lopez
Ray Lopez Acum 14 Zile
This guy is good...
Stanley Denning
Stanley Denning Acum 14 Zile
So, Harley Davidson motorcycles are for old guys who can't pull their heads out of the past. This explains why Harly is going under. The old guys are all dying. Than what?... Pull your head out, H.D.
SortaDopeIGuess
SortaDopeIGuess Acum 14 Zile
That Indian is a truly beautiful bike.
Me DotOrg
Me DotOrg Acum 14 Zile
If bobtails every stop selling, Indian still has the engineering chops to go somewhere else stylistically. Something, I dunno, like a Victory....
Ali Tahir
Ali Tahir Acum 14 Zile
Hey man do some videos on Hyosung Motorcycles as well.
Senor McDoofus
Senor McDoofus Acum 14 Zile
Sorry all my Exes said they prefer my girth over long and narrow
Tom Conolly
Tom Conolly Acum 15 Zile
Compared to a sportster? Very honest comparison. Haha
Eric lee
Eric lee Acum 15 Zile
I don't even have my motorcycle license let alone own a bike and I've watched almost every one of your videos. That shows how good they are. If you can captivate someone who doesn't even know how to ride a motorcycle to watch all your helmet reviews, then its got to be good.
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