Which Motorcycle Manufacturer is Best? [Laboratory Test]

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In today’s episode of Pissing Off Motorcycle Manufacturers, we’ve decided to go ahead and lab test every big brand’s manufacturing hygiene under their very noses. The results might surprise you.

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candlstudios
candlstudios Acum oră
It would have been good to know which motor you took the oil from for the Harley. The pic looked like a sportster. I'd be curious to see how the M8 motor would have done in this test.
hitesh jadhav
hitesh jadhav Acum 5 ore
Royal Enfield is the proof of quality manufacturing in India
Srini Krish
Srini Krish Acum 9 ore
That Japanese bike analogy got me burst out laughing on a silent train. I wish i cud share the joke with the ones staring at me.
Bombay Motorcycle Stories Official
Bombay Motorcycle Stories Official Acum 14 ore
In India, during a school examination, students, as a last resort to score a few more points, will try to ensure the utmost neat hand writing in their exam papers. Its called "getting extra marks for neat handwriting". That is Royal Enfield on their best behavior for the new foreign market 😆🍻
Siddhartha Sankar Bhattacharya
Siddhartha Sankar Bhattacharya Acum 14 ore
Considering the fact that RE and KTM are now owned and manufactured by India, it feels really a proud moment for india.
Minions
Minions Acum 16 ore
Now I’m happy with my 650 twin😊
halnwheels
halnwheels Acum 21 oră
This is a great video and very interesting. But there is a critical piece of information missing. That is whether we are comparing liquid cooled engines with air cooled engines. Why is this important, you may ask? Because air cooled engines operate over a much wider temperature range, whereas liquid cooled engines are thermostatically controlled, getting up to a precise engine temperature and staying within a much tighter temperature band than an air cooled engine. In order to accommodate the wider temperature range, the engine must be made with wider tolerances. Wider tolerances in manufacture will result in an engine that doesn't last as long. The fact that Harley Davidson is within the VDA 19 margin of error referenced in the video, speaks pretty well of their manufacturing process. Interestingly absent is Indian. So really, we should all be riding liquid cooled bikes if the overwhelming objective of motorcycling is to have the longest lasting engines.
pema gyaltsen
pema gyaltsen Acum o Zi
looking for proud to be an indian comments 🙄😝
pema gyaltsen
pema gyaltsen Acum o Zi
all hail fort nine
Mohammad Yaqoob
Mohammad Yaqoob Acum o Zi
Proud of being a Royal Enfield GT 650 owner 🇮🇳❤️
Davin Hunt
Davin Hunt Acum o Zi
I'm looking for triumph while wiping sweat off my brow.
hippyhay1
hippyhay1 Acum o Zi
..."and make sure to wipe up any spilled oil"... That's what she said.
Skyd Control
Skyd Control Acum 2 Zile
So this begs a question.....how does flushing the factory fluids out when you purchase the bike change the result? Would the second oil change harbor the same sad results for chinese and italian motors? Hmm, interesting thought. I loved the video! Wish I had the capabilities to test this as I picked up a chinese bike recently.
HUE_Elitemop
HUE_Elitemop Acum 4 Zile
As a 2 Stroke guy i can not relate
MOVIEclips1.0
MOVIEclips1.0 Acum 4 Zile
Hi,mr.fortnine make a video about engine oil please🙏
Archmadion Gaming
Archmadion Gaming Acum 4 Zile
Proud to be indian. An indian brand says hold my beer to other famous brands😂😂
da da
da da Acum 12 ore
@Archmadion Gaming I know there lots of ppl from different countries working in re
Archmadion Gaming
Archmadion Gaming Acum 13 ore
@da da for your kind information i want to tell you now RE is an indian brand.
Kaneki Ken
Kaneki Ken Acum 23 ore
@da da No, Engineers are Indians too, these bikes are designed and made in Chennai Tamil Nadu, India. One of my friend's brother is also an Engineer in RE. There is only another manufacturing plant in UK and they make only non critical components, Engines are only made in India and exported to UK manufacturing plant.
da da
da da Acum o Zi
Engineers are British
Mafresita
Mafresita Acum 4 Zile
Where is Indian?
Davide B.
Davide B. Acum 4 Zile
Sure, Ducati and Aprilia. Two companies - both manufacturers of MotoGP/SBK-grade engines made to run at full throttle for 1,5 hrs flawlessly, yet they apparently need lessons in engineering - machining tolerances etc.
Vanessa Xoax
Vanessa Xoax Acum o Zi
tbh personally i wouldnt make a large deal out of that, unless those contaminations stay in there after the factory oils gets changed.
Sudhanshu Sharma
Sudhanshu Sharma Acum 5 Zile
"Scale of 1 to italian",that's got me laughing😂
Sahil Mohammed
Sahil Mohammed Acum 5 Zile
Brother watch this series on Netflix 👍🏼the Vikings
Epixdude342
Epixdude342 Acum 6 Zile
Fortnine Advanced Research & Testing - F.A.R.T. just like the F.A.R.C.E division huh?
sudhan Blogs
sudhan Blogs Acum 6 Zile
ROYAL ENFIELD made like beast
jimmy swan
jimmy swan Acum 6 Zile
Don't buy bikes from China or Italy. That's not new news tbh haha
Jim Sheldonswe
Jim Sheldonswe Acum 6 Zile
My Guzzi has been around 21 years and going strong. Those dirty Ducati guys.
Aarav Rahtole
Aarav Rahtole Acum 6 Zile
I ordered a RE Supernova 350. Lol I'm in the waiting time.
Emma Buchanan
Emma Buchanan Acum 7 Zile
Having just bought a Royal Enfield Himalayan, I am glad to see they’re sitting right there at the top.
Boxcar Bro
Boxcar Bro Acum 7 Zile
I like this channel. But i mean... 1 sample from 1 example of each brand, is hardly a confirmation of order...
Dale
Dale Acum 7 Zile
How do the filters compare and what was in them?
Polecat54941
Polecat54941 Acum 8 Zile
You make some great content! keep doing this :)
Val Crist
Val Crist Acum 8 Zile
How come KTM has a bad reputation for reliability if it's on higher on the list?
Vanessa Xoax
Vanessa Xoax Acum o Zi
particles in engine oil dont mean much. If its just factory contamination found before the oil filter - nobody really cares about it. Maybe KTMs oil is clean due to leaking out all the time? ;)
Paul Steigerwald
Paul Steigerwald Acum 8 Zile
Would love to see a test video on a new Moto Guzzi... they do so much these days
hairlesheep
hairlesheep Acum 8 Zile
Rarely hit the bell icon. These vids are too good. Keep em' rolling
Saransh Saxena
Saransh Saxena Acum 9 Zile
Brilliant vdo!
Dante Doleao
Dante Doleao Acum 9 Zile
hi i'm italian, i'm totally agree except for the 3 hours of liquid lunch. We do a 3 hours coffe break, we eat spaghetti for 3 hours, we play mandolino for 3 hours and then build a bike. But we don't understand 3 hour liquid lunch.
Ash D
Ash D Acum 9 Zile
Colour me surprised. Now if there wasn't such a damn long wait on REs here in Australia...
Michael Selzler
Michael Selzler Acum 9 Zile
This is one of the coolest videos I have seen in a while. It justifies the KTM and BMW pricing while also completely shitting on Italy. Kind of funny. Makes me feel good about my BMW
Joshua Kern
Joshua Kern Acum 9 Zile
I wish Indian was on this list to be tested.
Der Klugscheißer
Der Klugscheißer Acum 10 Zile
Hey I´d like to know how many bikes you used to test for each brand (I´m specifically interested in the chinese one) because if it is that bad with one bike it would not give a general answer. It could be only one line of production that got bad Love your movies
DANIEL LIPPKE
DANIEL LIPPKE Acum 10 Zile
Id like to see him do a oil comparison. I like the way he breaks things down. So what oil would be best for my sport bike ? redline? royal purple, yamma lube ? can use regular 10w40 an just order the supposed additives ?
Larry Lentini
Larry Lentini Acum 10 Zile
It's almost uncanny that the stereotypes held up so well
Prabhu Dutta
Prabhu Dutta Acum 10 Zile
Royal Enfield making us Indians proud. Let's Go!
RonnyChem
RonnyChem Acum 10 Zile
Feelin real good about that Interceptor 650 I just ordered
XxXxDominator
XxXxDominator Acum 10 Zile
that north korean prison factory joke was killer xD
Steve Wise
Steve Wise Acum 10 Zile
The oil is clean in Royal Enfields because they will not start.
Diego Novoa
Diego Novoa Acum 10 Zile
Surprised to see RE at the top of the list
Luca Gambini
Luca Gambini Acum 10 Zile
Soo what you're telling me is, if i buy italian or chinese the first thing that i have to do is change the oil because it contains contaminants?
C BigC
C BigC Acum 10 Zile
This made me regain my interest in motorcycles. After not riding for 6 years, due to beeing a broke uni student. I guess you should take that as quite a compliment.
Praveen Sampath
Praveen Sampath Acum 11 Zile
Hard to believe that a "3rd world country" is leading the way in clean engines
Kaneki Ken
Kaneki Ken Acum 23 ore
@da da Again ? How many times should I tell you ? Engineers are from India. Bikes are made in India. There's another manufacturing plant in UK and they assemble it there, it's more of an assembly plant than a manufacturing plant in the UK.
da da
da da Acum o Zi
Bikes are assembled there, engineers are not from there
ɯɐʎɥs
ɯɐʎɥs Acum 11 Zile
RE oil is clean? maybe its because there isn't much wear and tear riding at 60Kmph 🤣 or RE fan boy sent a wrong oil, we Indians know how hardcore these RE fan boys are that we have a nick name for them called REturds.
John Andrews
John Andrews Acum 11 Zile
You know this has to be the best bike channel on the tubes
Woder
Woder Acum 11 Zile
ducati 916!
Mayank Choudhary
Mayank Choudhary Acum 12 Zile
That is a wonderfully analysed video. And three cheers to the Royal Enfield for topping the charts.👏👏👌👍
You Must Observe Security
You Must Observe Security Acum 12 Zile
i really like your channel a lot. its a great mix of information and entertainment. but what's with the sexist/misogynistic jokes? :/
Martin Klap
Martin Klap Acum 12 Zile
Fantastic laboratory test! This ROpost channel is excellent!
Debraj Deb
Debraj Deb Acum 12 Zile
You need to use a semi-lograthimic scale for such vast differences.
lostrainbow Yao
lostrainbow Yao Acum 12 Zile
You give me a good laugh even though I am a Chinese.
Juraj Benak
Juraj Benak Acum 12 Zile
So really all you need to do is ride it home and change oil asap
Beetleything
Beetleything Acum 4 Zile
Exactly. Do a break in ride 50-60 miles and an oil change and your good to go. It’s only the intial metal wear on a new engine. I have always done that anyway.
Edmund Konkolich
Edmund Konkolich Acum 13 Zile
"Science is a b*tch." -R. F9 Can't say I've ever heard THAT one in any mc vid, anywhere. LOL!
75CaveTrolls
75CaveTrolls Acum 13 Zile
Consistently great videos! I wish you included a list of the power plants tested, as almost every individual manufacturer sells multiple engines assembled in different plants or sometimes countries.
Alex !
Alex ! Acum 13 Zile
im from China and what is a yin xiang?
WhosThatGuy
WhosThatGuy Acum 13 Zile
I like but this is one of the more flawed tests you have done. No mention of the model of the bikes the oil was sampled from..... Not all models are made in the same factory or county and sometimes the oil is added by the dealer. Also what are the conditions the bike was ridden in before the oil was removed. Awesome test, flawed execution. But you knew that so I like it!
WhosThatGuy
WhosThatGuy Acum 13 Zile
1:44 5 of those guys look like the same guy just with a few more or less hair particles.
Richi_Boi
Richi_Boi Acum 14 Zile
Italian vehicles are made to be as good as they can possibly be. Just not for very long.
Outta Bubblegum
Outta Bubblegum Acum 15 Zile
Yamaha is definitely the best overall. Only lost on the smallest particles, which are the least significant.
2 Minute School
2 Minute School Acum 15 Zile
Einstein among motorcyclist ♥️♥️😍
eee e
eee e Acum 15 Zile
I can shit on Chinese bikes all I want but I know I'm reaching those particle levels when I'm rebuilding my engine lol
Cahya Martadinata
Cahya Martadinata Acum 16 Zile
What about Benelli.. QC ed by Italy. Manufactured by China😅
ShikiKaze
ShikiKaze Acum 14 Zile
Hot garbage is what they are.
Raju Chettri
Raju Chettri Acum 16 Zile
Shocked, I always believed in Japanese make🙄
High Plains Drifter
High Plains Drifter Acum 16 Zile
Allen Millyard makes the best motorbikes on earth. But only one at a time :(
Tom Davis Jr.
Tom Davis Jr. Acum 16 Zile
Polaris?
Janko Stojanović
Janko Stojanović Acum 16 Zile
Lol BMW ,it one of the most unrealiable bikes by a lot of consumers reports ,who the fuck are they so high on the list .Same with a cars .
Thomas Koemel
Thomas Koemel Acum 16 Zile
I wish I had seen this before I bought my Ducati. I can’t even reset the service light after I change the oil though. It’s really frustrating how hard they make new bikes to service.
Anjin Rider
Anjin Rider Acum 16 Zile
I wonder if they are using cognex imaging analysis, such as patmax blob tools for the particle identifiers
TheWonderfulStevieP
TheWonderfulStevieP Acum 16 Zile
The Enfield first service is 350 miles, Triumph 500 miles and Yamaha 600 miles. They all run wet clutches and that's the source of a lot of particulates, which might explain the Enfield topping the table. It's still a pleasant surprise, because my 2006 Enfield is an absolute dog's dinner. Though even on that the engine oil stays pretty clean because the primary drive and clutch are in a separate oil bath, with the shattered remains of the starter sprag.
Robson Enduro
Robson Enduro Acum 16 Zile
I think RE may be actually too tight...
Michele Bianchetti
Michele Bianchetti Acum 16 Zile
Which were the bikes used for the test?
Sanjay Chopra
Sanjay Chopra Acum 17 Zile
Great info/video Ryan. Thank you! I'm just getting into biking and have an Aprilia RS660 on order and now after watching this, sweating a bit. Would you suggest a couple of oil changes before the typical customary 1k km service? Thank you.
Ryu Vincent
Ryu Vincent Acum 17 Zile
Hey Ryan, will you make a video comparing and looking for the best coolant?
Jason Burtals
Jason Burtals Acum 17 Zile
Harley, no question. The rest just fight for 2nd. And not close.
Cacio99
Cacio99 Acum 17 Zile
min 3:38 "nacque così un mezzo a due ruote, potente, veloce, ma con qualche inconveniente" Thus was born a two-wheeled vehicle, powerful, fast, but with a few inconveniences Hi man, love from an italian fellow right here. Thanks for what you do.
diavolorosso69
diavolorosso69 Acum 17 Zile
Can someone explain what he means by the use of "lead composites" and at what stage, exactly, they are utilized? Is it during forging of the pistons?
PunkRokkMonkey
PunkRokkMonkey Acum 17 Zile
This is a great test video! Well thought out and executed. I work in a shop and while this is super-informative, this also piques my curiosity of what is going on internally during those "break-in" miles. Let's say, for the sake of argument, that these vehicle break-in periods affect each of these engines differently. Some good/some bad. What would be really interesting--and a GREAT follow-up video--would be lab results from the same manufacturer's bikes at their second oil change (i.e. their first post break-in service)!
Jerry and Nancy Wertzbaugher
Jerry and Nancy Wertzbaugher Acum 17 Zile
Some BMWs have engines made in China (like for example my new F900RX). Can we get a redo on Chinese Beemers? Oh, and how about Thai Triumphs?😎
Doug Bourdo
Doug Bourdo Acum 18 Zile
Very Interesting info Sir.
daft nord
daft nord Acum 18 Zile
i seriously had factory oil in my 1987 TW200, but drained it a few years ago when i got it
Nitesh Kumar
Nitesh Kumar Acum 18 Zile
India is the new Japan of manufacturing.
into the void
into the void Acum 18 Zile
I think I would run another royal enfield test, Just to be certain.
Jerome C DARRACQ
Jerome C DARRACQ Acum 18 Zile
good video. but to be really "scientific" here you should have test it on at least 4 or 5 diff engines from the brand you are talking about, then, you should have serviced them with with special additives to remove "dust", then make them run another couple thousands miles and then do the test again....
I CAN SPELLE
I CAN SPELLE Acum 18 Zile
Royal Enfield may be clean but wow I haven’t seen such fugly bikes in a while
Turtle’s Two Wheelers
Turtle’s Two Wheelers Acum 18 Zile
Is there a reason they left out Indian Motorcycles?
Dallon Avery
Dallon Avery Acum 18 Zile
So, Russia either cheats or doesn't play huh?
Nemo Ciau
Nemo Ciau Acum 18 Zile
Answer: the electric ones
mihaiavrigean
mihaiavrigean Acum 19 Zile
Ryan, the oil from the BMW, what kind of engine was it? Built in Berlin pt by Loncin?
mihaiavrigean
mihaiavrigean Acum 19 Zile
Or by Loncin?
Alexander McKay
Alexander McKay Acum 19 Zile
The irony is Ducati is owned by Ze Germans. You'd think there would be better oversight of the production.
Bond James
Bond James Acum 19 Zile
Different bikes. Different oil. 100% test inaccurate .
Arnoud AGR
Arnoud AGR Acum 19 Zile
Very interesting video. Were these samples from Chinese or German built BMW's? May have something to do with the initial dry run every new uninstalled BMW engine gets. So the majority of dirt entered during assembly is already removed. Not sure though if the oil is replaced after this dry run. Sampling of oil is also an art in itself. A lot of times contamination is introduced during sampling. Curious how many different oil samples resulted in these conclusions.
Schad
Schad Acum 19 Zile
Can you do a video on 3 layer waterproof motorcycle jackets?
Solid butter Productions
Solid butter Productions Acum 19 Zile
You know with ppl saying if you're wearing a mask why should I your mask will protect you right? Well It's more like you're wearing motorcycle gear you can be safe for the both of us
manolis106
manolis106 Acum 19 Zile
Hey Ryan, what a great video, thank you! A quick note for the sake of scientific method however, which you always embrace; All samples should ideally be de-identified to avoid bias. It may seem like an overkill in this case, but still, a double blind study ensures human factor does not interfere with outcome. As a Triumph, KTM and Honda owner, I was elated at these results :-)
oof
oof Acum 19 Zile
I wonder if Ryan has anything interesting to say about cleaning our bikes and all the different products manufacturers want you to buy. Would make a nice video I think
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